I think car manufacturers and tire makers have a deal with each other. Here’s why:
I bought a 2007 Suzuki SX4 two years ago to serve as a commuter car. Today it has 22,000 miles on it, and last week I had to replace all four tires, because the front ones were nearly bald.
I figured I just had a case of bad luck and partly blamed myself, since I failed to rotate the tires on a regular basis. But the guy at the tire shop said he’s noticing a common trend: People are coming in for new tires with about 20,000 miles on the odometer.
I got home and started searching online, and sure enough I found forums where people complain that their new cars need new tires after only 14,000 to 20,000 miles. A guy here made it 18,000 miles with a 2007 Lexus ES 350. Same thing here on a Mercedes GL450.
What’s the deal? Are car companies cutting costs by putting inferior OEM tires on their vehicles?
While I don’t doubt that could be a possibility, I think the bigger picture is a lack of proper tire maintenance. The guy who sold me the new tires for my Suzuki recommended having them rotated every 5,000 to 6,000 miles; maybe if I had done that in the first place the originals would’ve gone another 10K or so.
Also, please keep an eye on your tire pressure. As temperatures rise, tires that were properly inflated in cold weather could suddenly be overinflated. Measure your tire pressure “cold.” If possible, park the car in your garage overnight, and check the pressure in the morning.
Even with proper maintenance, tire life is another thing to consider when buying a new car. Check to see if the tires come with a warranty, and if not, use it as a negotiation tool to inch your price down.
When selling a car, consider doing what the guy who traded in the car my wife bought did: He felt bad getting rid of a car with used tires, so he put on brand-new 18″ Yokohamas before getting rid of it. Sweet!
If you want to learn more about tires, please read our Beginner’s Guide to Car Tires.
Has anyone else noticed a short life for tires on new cars? How many miles do you typically get out of a set of tires?
-tgriffith
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Have anyone got any warranty coverage from dealer or tire manufacturer in case the tire tread became 3/32 even before 27000 miles on the odometer? I’m facing this issue with my cadillac XT5 2017 model having Michelin tire which says almost 60000 mile warranty on their new tires.
Here I thought I was alone.
I have a 2017 Ram 1500 and was told I need to replace my tires because the thread is at 3/32. I have 35k miles and purchased it new. Tires have been rotated with every oil change.
After reading this thread I guess I should feel lucky, but I’m appalled and upset at what these companies are doing. It’s obvious that they are using sub standard tires so we can spend more money.
Shopping for tires I’ve noticed that the shortest warranty is 50k. Seriously? If that’s the case why is it that everyone here has come short of that????
Did anybody have to face this situation so that you can get your car inspected. I was told to put new tires on at 25000,. The tires were always rotated on schedule.
reading these comments then I know I wasn’t alone. I was surprised when the guy did the oil change told me I need replace my tires when my 2015 honda civic had only 21k. I guess I will pay more attention when I purchase a new car (negotiate with dealer) and when I purchase new tires (check warranty).
But there should be some action to stop this scam. new car comes with ‘soft’ tires!
I have a 2018 Chevy cruze with 20000 miles. Tires were rotated regularly with oil changes and serviced at the dealer. The front tires are starting to show threads and the rear are not far from doing the same. It has Hankook tires and reading their tire warranty shows that it does not cover original equipment tires. That right there shows that the original tires from the dealer are substandard if they wont cover them straight from the dealer.
I leased a 2017 Ford Focus SE. They have Continental Pro Conti Tires on them, I have 30,000 miles on them Ford Dealership says I need to replace them. They said factory tires are softest than. Store bought tires. Even new cars are headaches.
Same here with Honda CR-V and 23k miles. I am going to replace all four tires pretty soon. The original tires are Michelin and should last five years at least with regular driving condition. Here is the text directly from Michelin: “Keep five years in mind.”
I’ve been bringing my 2016 Nissan Rogue in for oil change,tire rotation etc since purchased new. I have 37000 miles on it and was told by dealership that I need new tires. My response to them was why and they said I should have had my tires rotated with oil changes. I guess they forgot that I ‘ve been going to them each 4000 miles for oil change and tire rotation plus inspection of entire car. NOTE: I never made a comment before.
I leased a 2017 C 300 and already two of the tires need replacing. I do not drive this car in a reckless manner and it’s had all of it’s service checks. The left rear tire blew out and had to be towed to the dealer (no spare on these babies) I have less than 24,000 miles on the car. The right tire was damaged and needed replacing as well. This seems like a racket to me. No spare so you are forced to have it towed to the dealer where they carry the replacement tire which they don’t have in stock so you have to wait several days and in the meantime you’re out a car.
Me too ! Glad I found this discussion .. I bought a brand new vehicle thinking I wouldn’t have to dump a bunch of money into fixing things and then my tire has a wee little nail in it that they supposedly can’t fix. So I supposedly need four new tires now ! I got 32000
Kms so I guess I should not complain . But this sucks that tires are so crappy!
Brand new tires – 60k Michelin’s put on at Costco May 2017 – have driven 27k mikes in exactly 2 years and need 4 new tires already. 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe. Front two are almost bald, back two I was told by another company could do another 2-3 months. This is ridiculous.
2018 Prius. Have already had to replace two back tires between 15,000-20,000 miles due to blow-outs.
2017 Ford Escape with 20000 miles. Rotated every 5000 at oil change time. Needs tires all around. Unrreal. My first experience not getting 40000 or so.
I am experiencing the same thing with our 2014 Mini Cooper S. The vehicle has 28,000 kilometres, not all on these kilometres were driven on these factory installed Pirelli’s. I have put winter snow tires on from October to May since purchase. Today I learned that all four tires are showing blistering on the inner lining and must be replaced. Something doesn’t seem right here.
2017 Honda HRV 22000 miles – my daughter needs all 4 tires replaced tire has a nail in it – was told can not replace one tire on an awd car it will ruin the drive shaft and or transmission – came With Michelin’s 200 dollar tires – what a bunch of bs. I have owned 12 cars in my life and until the newer vehicles never in my life have I had to replace all 4 tires with 20k miles. Maybe 2 I can see but all 4 a scam between the cars dealers and tire industry
Getting ready to replace 2018 Honda Odyssey Bridgestone Turanza tires with approx 26,500 miles on them. Worn between 2/32-3/32. The van has only been driven for 1 year, 4months. Ugh. We had the same problem with our 2004 Toyota Sienna. We would put on 65K and 80K tires but kept replacing tires around 25,000 miles (would get a hefty rebate though) at Discount Tire. We rotated as specified and kept tire pressure correct. We were hoping Honda would be different than Toyota design so the tires would not wear out as quickly. The tire people kept saying vans were hard on tires. We hoped Honda would be different but so far they are tracking the same! I long for the days when driving my Honda Accord and the tires would actually last somewhere near the manufacturer’s rating! Tires are expensive.
We purchased our 2017 CRV less than two years ago. In that amount of time we put just over 30k on it. Average driving. But the car has failed it’s very first inspection because the Bridgestone times were near bald. Bridestone claims “Tires used in commercial service and original equipment tires on new vehicles have no mileage warranty.” Are you kidding me? We’re so annoyed and Honda can’t do anything for us even though the bumper to bumper warranty is still in effect.
I have 36,000 on a 2017 CRV and I need new tires. I guess I did better than a lot of other people. I asked the dealer today how many miles most people get on the factory tires. I think he lied to me. He said it depends on how a person drives. Then he said some people get 80,000 while other people get 30,000. I am pretty sure nobody gets 80,000 on factory tires.
Guess I should be happy. Got to almost 28000 miles on 2017 CRV Honda. Not my first rodeo so was saving for inevitable. You are all right. 20000 is average.
Add us to the list 23,000 miles on a 2017 Honda CR-V, completely bald on all 4.
have a 2016 ford fusion at 19000 miles need tires already dealers must sell cheap tires on new cars i rotated evey other oil chang cheek pressure all the time did not matter still worn
10000 Miles on my 2017 Nissan Titan and need to replace two tires.
??? Not sure rotating every 5000-6000 miles would make too much of a difference.
TOYO – not a fan.
Bought the vehicle used when it had 3100 miles, so do not have original receipt and Carmax doesn’t offer any warranty on them.
So I’m stuck having to purchase two new tires.
Replacing all 4 on my Tatan before 11,000 miles. It is a 2017 also which has had 2 rotations, front end checked, and pressure looked at every 2 weeks. Go Go Goodyear, not a chance! Bye Bye Goodyear.
I am replacing mine from 2018 Honda Odyssey at 18k today. Who would buy tire that only last less than 20k?
Just bought a new Audi A4 with the S Line package and Continental Sport tires. After only 3000 miles the rear driver side tire blew out along the whole edge of the sidewall. Audi is trying to tell me it is my fault that the tires drove with not enough air. Interesting because this car tells you when the air is too low, but mine did not. They are trying to make me buy a new tire and not stand behind the ones they put on the vehicle, which has only been driven for a little over one month (most of the miles are from driving it home from buying from out of state). RIDICULOUS Scam artists!
I have a 2016 Toyota Highlander and my car only has 40,000 miles on it and already the dealer is telling me that the front tires have to be changed because they are 3/32 inches or less. The tires are in great shape. When I asked the service guy why he says they are wearing out so fast he said that because the Highlander is a front wheel drive you put more wear on the tires in the front. But, I rotate them every 5000 miles so they’re not necessarily the tires that were in the front when I first got the car. These may be from the back. He then explained to me that they are Bridgestone tires and that while they have better performance (not) they don’t last as long. He says that Toyota never puts the same tires on all the cars. One month they might put on Bridgestone tires. On another month they might put Michelin tires. He was telling me that you can find used tires at Ram tire’s or Mexicali tires. He said Mexicali has more variety. He told me that Hancook are lower performing tires and that Bridgestone are better performing tires. A lot of times the tires that last longer don’t perform as well. He said on the side of the tire they give a letter grade for handling and traction. To look for the letter A for both. He went on to tell me you can find used tires at Ram tire‘s or Mexicali tires. He said Mexicali has more variety. He told me that Hancook are lower performing tires and that Bridgestone tires are better performing tires. He said that Toyo tires and Bridgestone tires will wear out the fastest but are the better performing tires. Is this a load of crap they are feeding us? I feel they just want to get us to spend more money if it’s unnecessary. I’m going to get a second and third opinion.
After reading these comments I don’t feel so bad! Was very surprised when Nissan just advised me I needed new tires (2013 with 27,000). Tires have been rotated and I have always kept an eye on tire pressure. One more thing to think about when buying a new car! I expected 40 -50K at least! Also, I have mainly driven only in town – short distances and low speeds.
That’s me too! Before Christmas when I had the oil changed (when they usually rotate my tires) the dealer said he wouldn’t rotate them they were too bad. A 2016 with 22,000 miles on it!
I have same issue with my new 2017 Infiniti QX 60 which has only 19K miles on it. It came with a Bridgestone Dueller tire and I had been rotating those every 5K miles along with the oil change. Unfortunately one of the tires caughta nail and was losing air slowly.
When I took to the dealership, they advised that I change all tires. I called Bridgestone to inquire about having to change tires with such low miles and they asked me to go for a tire inspection at a Firestone nearby. They also recommended changing the tires due to the tread being 2/32 and 3/32.
I’m planning to follow this up through BBB autoline.
Omg that’s me too! I have a 2018 qx60 and need 2 new back tires. Only 21k miles and I have to replace the back brakes too. I’m glad that I’m not alone…. sorry about your four Bridgestones, I only need two so I’ll stop complaining
My 2015 Ford Focus has a little less than 19000 miles. I’ve rotated my tires and keep an eye on tire pressure and drive it almost exclusively on toll highways. I have an appointment tomorrow to change them as they are now at 2/32-4/32s tread depth…Anyone getting more than 20000 miles from the OEM Continentals is far the exception than the rule in my opinion..
2015 Mazda CX-5 with 22K miles, told 2 of the tires are 3/32 and 2 are 4/32 and should be replaced soon.
I drive a 2007 Toyota Prius which now has 144,500 miles on it. Took car in for rotation and told I need new tires and that they ares worn. Looked back at the record I had, last set of tires was purchased mid year in 2016. Odometer at that time read 104400. This will be the 4th set of tires I have had to purchase. No…I did not rotate tires quit the way I should have, but after reading all the comments and post here…looks like that would not have helped anyway. Clearly the tire manufacturers have found a way to sell sub standard tire quality yet claim to back their products up with 50-69,000 Mile warranty. How are they getting away with this is what I would like to know?
I bought a new 2016 Nissan Sentra in 2016. Just had to replace the tires at 26,000 miles. Seems to me the car manufacturers and the tire companies have something going. Tires used to last longer. Also I’ve been told that the car manufactures don’t check alignment after total assembly. Recommend when buying a new car to have the alignment checked. ?
Some of the comments made me chuckle. I guess most people did very little research before they bought tires. Most of the cheap skate just went down to the nearest discount warehouse and buy the cheapest tires they could find. I am also amazed that they will run those tires down to the wire before buying new ones.
I always did my research and bought the best tires I could buy regardless what they cost. My life and my family lives are depended on them. I will also buy new tires when the threads are down to less than 40%. To me that was around 40,000 or less miles. I also could not depend on the car manufacturer to put the best tires for my new car. I was surprised that they never test tires for the new car. I just bought a new car that cost $50,000, and I just bought better tires at 7,000 miles. Ironically, the new tires actually cost $190, the OEM tires cost $250 each.
2018 Honda Civic Sport. Just over 8k miles. Sitting at Discount Tire now getting new rims. They said I should replace my tires in the next month or two. The trend measured at 5/32. Live in Denver, snow is coming. ONLY 8,000 MILES!!!
I was just told yesterday that I need new tires @29,619mi. I have a 2017 Rav4. Wtf! Tires are supposed to be good for 50k-60k miles. So why are we replacing the tires and so soon after the warranty are up?
Yeah same thing happened to me. They say I need brake fluid flush also. Not mentioning new wiper blades
Just took my 2016 Honda Odyssey in for service and they told me I needed all 4 new tires replaced. I have 35k miles and rotate the tires at each oil change. Spoke with a separate tire shop and they said on average driving the tires should’ve lasted at 50-60k, which is about right. Interesting I found this post.
My 2014 Honda Accord has abou 33,000 and at the inspection the dealer/service mgr said I’d need new tires very soon. These OE tires are Continentals. You can be sure I”m not replacing my tires with another set of Continentals. What a ripoff. And I take my car to the dealer for regular servicing; if I need tire rotation why aren’t they letting me know?? I have TPMS so I figured my tire pressure is always ok. Am I wrong? Thanks.
Tire makers that are complicit in this scam are shooting themselves in the foot. I have experienced completely substandard tread life with original equipment Michelin tires on my present car and Continentals on my previous car. Consequently, I will never buy replacement tires of either brand.
I have a 2015 Toyota Camry with less than 24,000 miles that is going to need new tires soon. My last car was a Chevrolet Malibu that got just over 30,000 miles on the original tires. My son’s VW Rabbit needed new tires before 30,000 miles. Regardless of the official position taken by vehicle and tire manufacturers, it is apparent that a pattern exists. I have consistently gotten much better tread wear from the replacement tires.
I have a 2018 honda crv with 19,000 miles on it wont pass inspection need all 4 new tires. They are all bald. Rotated tires every 5thousand miles.
Same for my Nissan Pathfinder
2016 leased KIA Sedona — Hankook Dynapro HP2 OEM tires. Worn out at 24k. Dealer won’t do anything — says contact Hankook. Hankook had me take them to NTB for inspection then said they wouldn’t warranty treadwear on OEM tires… but were going to offer me 25% off on new tires if I purchased thru NTB today. I told them both to pound sand….
2017 Honda CRV with 28,000 miles. Bridgestone Ecopia, rotated regurlarly. Advertised as 70,000 mile warranty. Noticed they weren’t wearing good around 10k probably wouldn’t make it to 35k.
Took the car in to dealer for an unrelated issue last week and the service mgr suggested new tires. I asked why they didn’t last long he stated OEM tires usually last 30k.
Replaced tires yesterday….what a crock.
dealing with the same thing. 2016 Honda CRV w/ 19K miles, garage parked. dealer is saying right rear tire is worn and i need a new one. have continental tire on it.
I have 2016 CRV and 31,000 mi., just told I need all four new tires.
Never heard of such a thing 31,000 isn’t that much for tires.
Honda puts the cheapest tires on their cars, very upset with them,
I shouldn’t pay for the crap tires they put on their new cars!
I lease a Mazda CX5 with Yokohama Geolander tires. I have $20,000 miles on my car. Tires rotated every other oil change. Now, they say I need 4 new tires. This is why I leased, so I wouldn’t have these expenses. This is my first lease, and may be my last. Especially with Mazda. I am so upset! Reviews of Yokohama say their customer service could care less if you file a complaint. My salesman says the tires have no warranty on tread. What a ripoff!!
I have a 2016 Ford Fusion and was just told today that I need 4 new tires. The car only has 22000
miles on it. I am more than a little upset about this. On top of the other issues with the car, I am almost ready to give the damn thing back to them!!
I have to agree that I think this is BS too! Just leased an infiniti Gx70 1.5 years ago. Has 18,000 and guy is telling me I need knew tires!!!! WHAT!!! That is ridiculous! Tires have been rotated every 6K. I am beyond annoyed. I am not buying new tires for a car that has 18K! Last time I will be leasing, that’s for sure!
I have a 2016 CRV and previously had a Civic. The civic got about 40k before I had to buy new tires. The CRV currently has 37k. The tires are getting low, but nowhere near the treadwear indicators. I normally replace my tires when they reach 4/32 due to getting a lot of rain here and once below 4/32 you start to lose traction in wet weather.
I know that they design the new car tires to get about 20k only. Toyota especially… you go in for your 20k service and they tell you, well… you could get 10k or 5k more but better to change them now when your car is there for the 20k service. Then they make more money for the tire manufacturer and the dealership replacing your tires. everything revolves around money.
That happened to me too on my Nissan Rouge. I haven’t even had the car for a year, and bought it with zero mileage. And when I went to the dealer for my 20k maintenance they said I needed to get new brakes and new tires.
I have the same problem with my 2017 Kia Forte, @ 10k they tell m my tires are half gone, well I’ve took it up with the dealer n now waiting on a reply to weather they are getting me new tires or not, if not I’m calling Kia, I agree with everyone, it’s all a big money scam!!
When I complained about noisy tires @ 18,000 I was told by the service dept at my dealership that original equipment tires are not a warranty item. Why? Because new cars come with “soft” tires to improve your test drive experience by allowing the car to have a nice quiet ride. I learned to always ask for a new set of tires to be put on the new car before purchase, or work in a new set at 20000 miles into your deal. It’s a ridiculous, expensive sales ploy and as we as consumers catch on, we can either demand warranty coverage, as we expect with any other tire purchase or they can put decent equipment on new cars to begin with!
2016 optima here. Two weeks ago the treads on my fronts were fine. I put about 300 miles on them since then looked at them today they are balding in the front and the car isn’t out out alignment or doesn’t seem to be? It seems like manufactures are putting cheap tires on cars these days because my last 3 news cars went through tires really quickly. Best car I ever had for tires was my 2004 galant GTZ. Tires that came with it were rated for 50k I changed them out at 50 with plenty of tread left 3 times all with the same tires that came from the factory. Tires on that car wore evenly and it was never out of alignment.
Interesting article. However I would not get hung up on just replacing after a certain number. It all depends on the amount of tread remaining on the tyres to keep the vehicle safe while on the road. In Australian for instance it is said you can get anywhere from 10,000km to 50,000km before needing to change your tires. This is a huge range and it all depends on the road conditions the tyres are exposed to. As a comparison 20,000 miles = around 32,000kms.
Here’s the thing – there are soft compound and there are hard compound tires – soft compounds are great grippers but wear out earlier and the hard compounds last a lifetime but are not one bit grippy. Choosing a tire is more like a balancing act on how much to compromise on what. It’s not buying from a reputable company that makes the tire have great life – get hard compounds if thats what you need.
I find it odd that people complain of excessive tire wear after getting 25000 miles and only having 5/32 left, most passenger cars come come with10-12 mm tread depth wear indicators are 2mm. If you see wear on the inside or outside of a tire that is severe you need an alignment. Tires are second procedure emergency repair only beat by brakes. A good shop manager will tell you to replace both. That is how we turn a 20$ oil change into a thousand dollar service ticket. Job security. Thanks.
Bought new Mercedes Benz GLC300 at 2016, maintain regularly in local dealer, just had service this week, and was told I need to replace all 4 tires for my 19000 miles tires with price over $1000. Ridiculous! Complain to Benz custom service, let’s see the feed back.
Im dealing with this as we speak. This is outrageous… never buying a mercedes again.
Same thing happened to me with my brand new Honda CRV. At 6k miles I had 6/32 tire wear. Brand new it’s suppose to be 10/32. Now a year later they tell me I need new tires. 4/32. Explain that. I am going to Firestone first tomorrow. Then will be taking this up with my Honda dealer. I will go to corporate Honda if I have to. I am not paying for new tires. This is on them. We shouldn’t have to put up with this. Make them pay!!! Good luck.
Let us know how that went! Dealing with that right now
Mine is exactly the same! I have 2016 GLC300, I was told to replace all 4 tires a month ago, I only have 20,000 miles… Here is MB customer service reply:
Based on the current readings (measurements) on your tires I do not feel the alignment is why the tires should be replaced.
All four are averaging around 2 mm across the tread. Our manufacture likes us to start recommending tires at 3 to 4 mm. As thousands of miles of driving alignments can surely change or get out of specifications and we also recommend performing alignments when we replace tires to
try to achieve maximum wear on the replacement tires.
Unfortunately most all tires produced now have moved to a much softer composite which means to achieve 40,000 miles or better just doesn’t happen this day and age certainly on our (Mercedes-Benz) vehicles. There are many reasons why our cars handle and perform the way that they do a lot of those reasons are because of the softer rubber but the effect is lower mileage. We have a few certain models that don’t see more the 10,000 miles out of the tires, definitely not all of them. Your particular vehicle seems to average around 15,000 to 20,000 miles on tires but again that is an average.
We may be able to find a different composite tire for you without sacrificing ride quality and performance and still keep with an OEM tire. Mercedes usually gives us a few options or choices on tires but we have to install what MB recommends on what goes back on the vehicle. I honestly feel that any we choose will be around 20k or SLIGHTLY higher but as stated this is not uncommon wear for your model vehicle.
Mercedes tire come with a two year road hazard warranty and we at RBM will give to free tire rotation for the life of the tire (if applicable) we also do a price match of local tire suppliers as long as we are comparing the same tires.
Please let me know what questions you have and how I may be able to assist to make sure your investment is protected.
Hi Jane,
I am delaing with the same problem. My 2017 GLC300 tire worn out around 18000 miles. I was shocked when the SA told me when I checked in my car for 2nd year servicing. My previous VW had enough tire threads even after 26000 miles.
Did you get any feed back
I have 8000 miles on my car and I am being told coz it is an amg gts these tires do not last more then that
Hi Roby,
I am dealing with the same problem. They got back to me and said we can only give you $300 discount. Please let me know if you found anyway to get rid of the tires and car.
I have the same problem, not sure if its a design issue or something else
When I leased a Mini Cooper 2015, after 20,000 miles one tire went flat on me (2 years from start of lease). I went to dealership they told me I need to change the 4 tires and that anyway before my lease ends (it is a 3-year lease), I needed to change the tires otherwise the dealer will have to charge me for new tires when I return it (at 30,000).
Now my other leased car (Mercedes E-300 2017) just passed 21,000 and back right tire going flat on me. Have to go tomorrow to dealer to check it out. I am afraid they will ask me to change tires.
Seems the new norm now is to change tires for cars after 20k miles (sigh)
Update: Sent the Mercedes to dealer and seemed there was a nail in the tire, changing only one tire. Yaaay!
2016 Porsche Cayenne tires are Pirellis over $700 a tire. Car has 21000 miles. Porche Dealer of Tysons Corner tells me I need 4 new tires already. What’s worse is I bought the tire protection plan. Took it in because I had a nail in one of the tires. The dealer in their infinite wisdom told the insurance company it was “in a repairable location” so now they won’t cover the replacement. What a rip off. And why are tires on a $100k car lasting only 20000 miles?
I bought a brand new Honda CR-V in 2017. I’ve had the tires rotated 3 times, and at 20,000 miles, they are worn out. This is rediculous. My Toyota came with firestone tires and I got almost 60,00 miles from them. What is the deal with Honda putting cheap grade tires on their touring model crv’? I complained and got nowhere. I’m not done yet though. I’m mad.
I have the same car and the same problem! I can’t believe only 20k Miles!!! Did you get anywhere with complaining?
I complained I replace my tires every year, keep getting nails and blow outs. The last blow out almost killed me. Honda did not give a hoot. They only sell continental tires, they are the worst. My 2 tires in the front are not even 1 year old and are down to 5/32. I complained and they treated me like I was a pain. I had 2 blow out and many flats. It is very dangerous I hate Honda I will never by one again. Now I have to replace the one rear tire because they replace the other one with the continental, because of a blow out on the George Washington Bridge. I told them I did not want a Continental they said that was all they sell.
Wow. I have the same car! I just went to my dealer and my 1.3 year old car with 23k miles needs new tires. I’m going to fight this one AGAIN. YES this happened to my 07 CRV. But my 2012 CRV tires lasted 88k miles. Good luck!!
When I asked the dealership in Langley why the Langley tires didn’t last 50,000 miles as advertised, they said that many new car tires only last 12,000 miles. Needless to say, I have to get new tires.
I rotate them tires every oil change aproximatelly 25k
Replaced OEM tires on a Toyota Sienna van at 32,000. Bought Pirelli’s and rotated every 6k with oil change. Pirelli’s come with 65k warranty but now tires are down to 5/32 after on 30k of wear. So, I’m shopping once again after 2 years and 30k of mileage for another $800 tire replacement. Such a ripoff…
Most the Toyota vehicles tires last only over 20k miles ,Toyota suv and trucks wheels are not aligned.
There are tread wear indicators on every tire. Read the owner manual or google how to check them.
I just got back from an oil change and tire rotation (done every 5,000 miles). I must be very lucky because the tires on my 2014 Ford Focus lasted almost 47,000 miles. When I asked the dealership why the tires didn’t last 60,000 miles as advertised, he said that many new car tires only last 12,000 miles. Needless to say, I have to get new tires.
My primacy mxv4 on the 2015 Pilot were worn by 27K miles. Nice ride but thread life fall way short of 60K as indicated.
2013 VW with 23,000 miles. I drive 1 hour 3 times a week along with normal errands. Dealer recommends new tires and now afraid not to get them. I am 70 years old and have had many cars..this is the first time I will be buying new tires. Their game sucks!!?
I win! ? I just left my 15K service interval, 2016 Nissan Sentra, economy car that sees under 1000 miles a month, and the kid says I’m going to need new tires within a couple months! I was jaw-on-the-floor because, I mean it’s a LEASE. Why would one EVER need to replace brand new tires??? Well I guess I’ll cross that bridge with management at the dealership when I have to. It’s a commuter car, that I do have maintenanced at the dealership every 5K miles and do have the tires rotated. But I’m saying it now, there’s no way they’re getting any $$ outta me over this.
I have a 2017 Nissan Sentra Nismo with just over 19k purchased it with 6 miles on it and they are telling me my tread is down to 4 on the thread mm. Like why buy a sports car with performance parts/tires that even when properly maintained needs to be changed at an irregular rate.
2014 Hyundai elantra only put 14,200 miles and the mechanic is telling me I need new tires soon. I get oil change and tire inspection every 3k and have done two tire rotations. What’s the deal? Cheap tires or second opinion?? Abes head looks good.
I purchased a brand new 2015 civic two years ago, and I’m replacing the original tires now at about 26k. I did only rotate them once however, and they are low profile, so I’m assuming that’s why they wore more quickly. Something still does not seem right!
I have a Mazda C-X5 I have 53000 and still have 4/32nd tread left.. i rotated every 5,000 with oil change. They have one of the best tires it came new with, Yokohama’s. I’m only replacing because I’m fixing to make a 6,000 mile trip. Auto shop said I should not have a problem but want to be safe than sorry.
My 2016 toyota corolla s has only 26,135 miles and the Firestone tires that came on it were already worn down to 5mm. I went to Tire Discounters today and bought a brand new set of Pirelli Cinturato tires. They have a 70,000 mile warranty. Much better tires than the Firestone than were the oem that were on the car when i bought it. It rides and handles so much better now. I wont ever put Firestone tires on my car.
sounds very familiar….my 2016 camry I drive 64 EASY highway miles every day…..had it in to the dealership every 5k as required…..at 28000 miles guess what??? you’re down to 3/32 ??? I believe the car companies are putting cheap tires on new vehicles, because when you ask the dealership about it they have had issues but their corporate sales people won’t do anything about it…..and when you ask them what the mileage rating is on your NEW tires, they say they don’t have a rating……BS
I have a 2016 toyota corolla that i bought brand new. I drive the speed limit and I’m careful when i break. I also take my car in for service to the dealer where i bought my car. Every 5,000 miles they rotate the tires and check the tread. My car isn’t even 2 years old yet and i am about to need to buy new tires for it. The manufacturers should put better tires on their new cars!!
Your car is only two years old, but that is irrelevant. What was the mileage?
I have 2 new Toyota cars; one 2013 and another 2015 .. both tires are bald at barely 30K while following all proper tire rotations schedules and driving very carefully (not burning tires at stops). It is crazy when they want to sell tires to everyone who come for oil change while sitting at the waiting area. what is going on??
I think I will punish them by not getting new tires from car dealership. Secondly they charge over 100 bucks for alignment every time! And every time it is OFF when I have not run into curbs or pot holes. What is wrong with these car makers.
I bought a new 2015 Chrysler 300s awd and 24,000 miles later the tires are almost bald. I rotate them at every oil change. It’s B.S they say they don’t see anything wrong smh.
Our cars, one of humans’ greatest inventions, are indeed complex machines. They are made up of different kinds and sizes of parts and components that all work together for your mobility, driving convenience, safety, and more. Being that all these different vehicle parts have each of their own functions and responsibilities, it is only natural to think that some will wear out and get tired faster than the others.
Hyundai Sonata, 2016, with 18,258 miles. In For inspection and 2 tires need to be replaced at a cost of $228.20. Not happy!!!!!
It can happen. It depends on the tires, the alignment, and to a degree, it might be the drive system (AWD/4WD).
Tires have wear ratings. In theory, longer wearing tires are “harder”, but they may not grip as well, or be more 3 season, than 4 season (not great in cold weather).
An alignment that keeps a car tracking true is a compromise. The current “fashion” of wide, low profile tires, makes alignment and stability a balancing act. Wide tires can be sensitive to uneven roads. They can be great for dry grip, but not so great for rain and snow. If you’re getting an alignment, get a 4 wheel alignment.
I’ve pulled relatively good OEM tires off my cars because they just don’t feel good during bad weather. They’re adequate, but not good. That’s important when you live in a rural, mountain, area.
Same here. New car rotated every 5 thousand miles like clockwork! 29,000 miles later and the last maintenance check reported them at 2/32. I need 4 new tires. The brand of tires on it report a 60,000 mile warranty on New tires but are not covered under warranty for a new car. What a rip off. The tire company should NOT make substandard tires specifically for a car company and not back their warranty! The public should be aware.
Just happened to me today! Bought a brand new 2017 Hyundai Accent, maintained @ dealership on schedule. Between last tire rotation/oil change and today my tires are suddenly in the RED @ 24K??? Something really odd.
I have 2015 Ford F350 cutaway van I purchased new and just replaced the tires at 16k. The tire shop asked if I wanted the old Tires because they said they weren’t half bad. They were at about 50% of their life, but they absolutely sucked in the Seattle rain and especially in the snow going down the highway. It’s Fall and Winter is right around the corner and I wasn’t going to spend another winter on crappy tires. So for my safety and my employees safety, I changed out the tires. After just driving10 miles, I could tell that the new tires offere far more traction and a comfortable ride. Money well spent and a warranty that covers flats, balancing and tire rotating for the life of the tire.
2016 Volvo V60 came with Michelins. I expected a reputable tire to last longer. I’m 4/32 at just over 30,000 miles. Totally shocked.
Same thing here. as of 10/05/2017. Have a 2015 Honda Fit with Firestones from Dealership.
28,000 miles and the fronts are bald at the sides.. Never hit any curbs or anything . Only drive on freeways…..
Bought 4 new tires at firestone in feb 2017. It is now october and 10k miles later, these tires are really really worn. No way I can make it thru the winter with them. They have a 40k mile warranty on them….
My dodge journey has 19k miles on it. I need all 4 tires and a wheel alignments all around. How the heck does a practically new car need new tires and wheel alignments! It’s not like I’ve done any kind of hard driving on the thinkg
I contacted Kumho directly they stated Dodge requires certain specs on their tires for new vehicles to only last 20-30k. I am contacting Dodge tomorrow re this issue.
Check the brand of tire. Also how AGGRESIVE you drive pits toll on tires. I have an MDX and I’m at 35k miles I can push another 3k on tires. SO that being said you get what you pay for!!
Same here…Bought a Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 last year. The tires are run flats. The car only has 16,000 miles on it, 1 tire blew up while driving on the interstate because it was so worn out and the remaining three are totally bald! Of course I went to Mercedes only for them to tell me “it is perfectly normal”
Yes, I’ve known this since 2004. Bought new Lexus RX, had blowout at 23000 miles, all tires needed to be replaced. A good, honest person advised me, that all new cars come with inferior tires. Less tread, and you are lucky to get 20k out of them. Yes, we are being robbed. I bought another RX, NEW, it has almost 17k miles, need new ones. Ill never get another Lexus, they are also doing terrible things, to produce more money coming in. Watch out, when you go in for “free” service. You will have to return in 24 hours. I KNOW this to be true, or I wouldn’t type it here. WAKE UP, PEOPLE, WE ARE BEING RIPPED OFF BY AUTO MAKERS EVERY DAY! The guy that said “its like buying a printer that only prints 10 pages” was right on!
I’m having the same issue. I drive a 2015 Nissan Murano. Absolutely an amazing vehicle and I love it but just last week I brought it in for my 25,000 mile service appointment and Nissan says I will need to change all of my tires soon…..
Not sure why the tires would have worn out so quickly. Have taken very good care of the vehicle and have brought it in every 5K miles for the service appointments. Never drive on rough roads or hit potholes, don’t drive over the curb lol (if either of those have anything to do with it). The only thing I could think of is that I drive 70mph+ each day on my commute to work, so maybe the higher the speed the faster the tires wear out.
Anyway, anyone have any suggestions on good tires to get that will last a while?
Bought new 2015 Hyundai Elanta, have maintained the car according to the manual, and just brought in for an oil change at 25,000miles and told that I need new tires asap. Not totally bald, but getting slick and I’ve noticed a rougher stop the last week or so.
Couldn’t believe it, not happy at all. Decoded to search to see if others were seeing the same.
Same here.
C grade tires are only available to dealerships that is why quick wear on new vehicle. This was told to me by a guy at a tire shop and makes perfect sense.
New Volkswagen needs all new tires at 11,000miles. All bald. does that make sense?
I have a 2015 Toyota Avalon Hybrid, same as many other comments, 31,000 miles and need new tires! My 2007 Avalon went for 55,000 until I needed new tires! My wife drives a 2012 Highlander and we replaced those tires at 60,000. What is happening to tires since a couple of years ago? By the way, the majority of my miles have been and still are interstate miles? Marc
i am a mechanic and own a shop. i will say it there are many factors to tire life. For example, I had a customer that brought his own tires (which I hate lol), tiger paws and I installed them. we rotated them once but after 18k there were done! Now this was a AWD so those eat tires. Now on 10 of 2014 I installed 4 NOKIAN WRG3 on a Volvo XC90 AWD. at the time his miles were 43025. He just made an appointment to get them replaced. His odometer is at 87962. 44937!!! By the time he gets his new tires he will have over 45,000. And the tires could probably go to 48 to 50k. This is not uncommon with the Nokian tires, however I have seen them get worn in way less miles. So here is a suggestion from a professional:
*Get a 4 wheel alignment with new tires. VERY Important
*MAINTAIN AIR PRESSURE! CHECK OFTEN ESPECIALLY IN CLIMATE CHANGES
*Have tires inspected for uneven wear by someone who knows…(tire shop for example) NOT a quickie service!
*If needed have get an alignment. (much cheaper than new tires)
*Rotate Tires!!!! Most tire places will do it free if you buy them there.
*MOST IMPORTANTLY, Remember this….
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!!
Invest in good tires and take care of them and you WILL get more for you money and in the long run, end up spending LESS!
All the best,
TT
I bought new tires from Discount Tire. Had them rotated at every scheduled internal and they still only lasted about 20,000 miles and they were supposed to be 60,000 mile tires. Why do you think that is?
My 2010 Mazda 5 went 19000km (12000 miles) and The 2012 Nissan Quest got 22000 km (16000 miles). I was very disgusted and in both cases the dealer just shrugged. My 2014 Chev Sonic has 47000km (30000 miles) and tires still have good tread although the tread grooves look a little dicey as there are deep cracks in them.
We keep having the same issues with our 2012
Quest.
I like that you recommend to keep an eye on your tire pressure. I was riding in my brother’s car the other day and commented that it was a little bumpy. We first thought that it was his shocks or something else, but then we realized that the air pressure in his tires were really low. I would imagine that this also caused them to be worn in certain spots as well.
I drive a 2015 Nisson Rogue with 23000 mi. The tires on rt side measure 3 and 4 the other side are 8’s
Interesting string, sounds like we all are being taken for a ride…
I was told the tires that come with new cars are soft “High Performance Tires” . Ergo high performance good cornering tires. I said all well and good, but since I don’t corner at 50 mph, can I get High Millage tires for my 17″ wheels? She said no, all I can buy is High performance tires for 17″ wheels”. I imagine the same for 18″ and up as well..
So much for the High performance package at no extra charge. This is nuts!!! Looks like I will be buying my tires from the Salvage Yard, certainly can’t be any worse that these new Junk tires…
I have a 2016 BMW X3 with 29K mi on it, and I am replacing all 4 tires this week. Very worn and very disheartened. When you spend this kind of $ on a vehicle, I would expect at least 50K mi?? It sickens me to see the other comments. Its a racket between car manufacturers and tire makers.
I don’t think it’s a racket between car mfg and tire mfg. I think car mfg. are simply putting cheap tires on new cars to cut costs. If I ever buy a new car again, after I agree on a price I will then tell them what tires to put on.
Bought a used 2012 Ford Edge AWD…just replaced my 20″ Pirellis at 56,000 miles. Most dealerships don’t properly rotate tires. They just go from front to back…it’s supposed to be rotated as an X for equal wear. I typically rotate my own tires because of all the idiot workers out there. When I’m lazy I goto a highly trusted tire shop near my house and watch them do it.
You say you bought a used 2012…how do you know that the original equipment tires were not replaced before you bought the car?
Back in the days of poly-ply tires (up until the 1980’s), the general rule was to rotate in an X pattern. All that changed with steel-belted radials (virtually all passenger car tores today).
Steel-belted radials (modern tires) should always remain on the same side of the vehicle to which they have adapted. By switching sides, you are creating a situation where the tire is suddenly rotating the opposite direction of what it’s been used to. Steel-belted radials will separate if you do this. You never want to switch modern tires from the driver’s side to the passenger side… very dangerous practice.
Some car maintenance rules from 40-50 years ago do not apply anymore. Be careful of the advice you take and consider the source.
2010 Altima. I’m getting ready to replace my tires for the 2nd time. I wasn’t rotating between 1st set & 2nd set, so that “was the reason” for not getting more than 1/2 of my warrantied mileage. So I started rotating .. when I went in a year ago for my rotation, they told me I was close to needing new tires. I waited a year & now I need a new set .. tho they told me I needed new tires a year ago. I made it 27,000 miles on this set. Calculating the miles I had on it & the fact that they told me I needed to replace my tires a year ago “soon”, it doesn’t appear it would have made any difference if I would have gotten it rotated 6 months ago .. whatever. I’m getting roughly 1/2 of the 50,000 mile warranty. Is it really worth it to buy a more expensive tire .. how many more miles could I get out of it??
My 2015 Hyundai tires are bald at 19,000 miles. I. Ought the car brand new from the dealership! Disgusted! ?
I have a 2014 RAV4 with 31000 miles. The OEM tires came with nitrogen rather than air so the pressure remains constant regardless of temperature.They have been rotated as required by Toyota.
My tires are only 1/2 worn out.
When buying new tires find a shop that uses nitrogen.
I guess I’m in the same boat…Hyundai XG350 2004 and I have to replace tires about every 30,000 miles, but I drive in the city and sometimes in the country, with gravel roads and potholes, hard into corners and I like to drive fast.
I just was told that my Hyundai Elantra with only 30,000 miles on it needs new tires. The dealer wanted to put the same brand of tires (Hankook P205/55R16 89H) on as a replacement. I was wondering why I got such horrible wear; apparently I did pretty good compared with what other people are saying. I think the cheap tire explanation is probably the correct one. In over 30 years of driving, I have never had tires wear out so quickly before. I will definitely shop elsewhere for my new tires.
I have a 2015 Chrysler 200 with Bridgestone tires as original. I get them rotated every 7500 miles per the recommendation in the manual. They are shot after 29,000 miles. I had this fabulous vehicle into the dealer ship for its fourth recall (don’t get me started) and I asked about the uneven tread wear on one of the tires. They said they would look at the alignment. When I went to pick it up they gave me the Heisman and said the wear was normal. I called Bridgestone customer service about it and and was told, by a very helpful person, that the auto companies buy tires that are softer rubber than the normal tires that are warrantied for 50-70k miles so as they provide better mileage. So, this means that we have to suffer and buy new tires at 25 to 30K miles so the auto manufacturers can advertise good mileage and adhere to the government mandated mileage targets. BTW, tires that come standard on a new car are not warrantied by the tire manufacturer because of the inferior rubber they have to use. According to the Bridgestone rep, they even cost more to make and therefore more for us to pay for our automobiles than the normal higher wear capable tires. If I ever buy another new car I will make part of the deal that they credit me for the tires that come with it and I will bring them tires they can install.
Bought a 2014 Infiniti QX60 from Southwest Infiniti in Houston (NOT recommended as a dealership to buy from at all!!!)
I questioned the VERY worn tires at only 15k miles, but the salesman said it was acceptable based on the coin test. At 27k miles They are almost completely bald and will be replaced this week. It seems I got more milage than some others, but still. I am looking at tires and most seem to be good for at least 50 for this car!
I have a 2013 Hyundai Sontana bought new now has 22 miles every oil change tires rotated and aligned once a year today they said tire tread is 30/ 40 need new tires I was told by several people today Hyundai puts cheap tires on their new cars. probably why I have hard time in winter on pa roads and hills. so I will get new tires but not at dealership you pay a lot for new cars give us good tires. I mean 22.000 miles not 22.
What brand tires are most of you having trouble with? maybe you can get a sort of poll going here and see if there is any correlation between these tires. List the brand, the load rating, the tire pressure and how you drive it would be helpful. If there is no common thing that is causing this, maybe the tire companies are together with the car manufactures. I don’t think so but I don’t really trust anybody now days, especially after seeing Hillary run for President.
At least the vast majority of you had someone from the dealership inform you that you needed new tires…mine didn’t offer rotation, didn’t suggest I replace the tires, and the other day I had a blowout on the freeway, wheel well/body damage, none of it is covered under my warranty, and it happened closer to a different Hyundai dealership with shitty attitudes and they weren’t even looking at my car until I repeatedly called them and even had my car salesman call them, and then they misinformed me about the extent of the damage, and ultimately just gave me the number of a body shop/tow truck in town. I would love to be complaining about having to just replace the tires sooner than expected.
I bought my car last year and it has 18,800 miles and Toyota dealer is telling me because I didn’t get alignment they recommended last oil change/tire rotation that this caused wear on my tires. They would not rotate my tires saying that the 2 front ones are bad.
Wow I had the exact same thing happen with my 2015 Rav 4 I have made a complaint to Toyota because the dealership told me the tires should only get 15000 to 20000 miles. I think something stinky is going on between the car and tire companies.
Just got back from the Hyundai dealership getting an oil change. 2014 Elantra, 37k- I am a high mileage driver. Need new tires. :( In my experience, tires should last 4-5 years and at least 50k miles!! They quoted me $570 for new tires. NO WAY on a small car!! Headed to Costco!!!
2010 Honda Civic
20K miles and tires could use replacing. I have never rotated, but still
doesn’t seem like many miles.
2015 Hyundai Accent
I noticed my front tires were pretty bare after 10,000 miles. I tried to get them rotated, and they said they were too long gone. Pretty Ridiculous to have to purchase two new tires after only 10,000 miles!
Are you a hard driver, hard into corners, a lot of city driving? I notice a lot of the people that have small cars tend to thin they are racers. Just saying.
Kevin you described me to a T, I drive a 2004 XG350L Hyundai and I only get 30,000 miles out of my tires.
I bought a 2015 Hyundai Elantra. At 24,000 miles I had to buy new tires, and should have at 18,000. My Hyundai salesman told me they put cheap tires on all the cars…gives a quieter ride. The serviceman at the same dealership said they were only warranted for 12,000 miles. Salesman claimed most manufacturers are doing this. I advise not buying until they agree to put quality tires on you brand new car. Buyer beware.
I drive my new Toyota Sienna 2014 LE. This van is having only 23500 miles on it and all tires are almost bald only 10-155 remain. I am so surprise how it could be possible. I did tire rotation on every service(each after 5000 miles). Still….
Car companies are surely cheating with customers…….
Not all new vehicle tires are created Equal it would seem.
Examples:
My 2013 Genesis: 25k miles and replace tires required.
My 2015 Lincoln MKZ 23K miles and replace tires required.
My 2012 Inifiti QX56 68K miles and replaced tires because I was shocked that they were lasting so long. Dealer said that I have at least another 10k on the tread. Replaced anyway early.
Purchased new 2013 Toyota Highlander – had to replace tires after only 17,000 + miles! Should of kept my Volvo…
White color has lots of chips – should of kept my Volvo….. still have lots & lots of payments – should of kept my paid Volvo. My daughter has an old Toyota huge van and loves it & it has lots & lots of miles.
I just bought a New Dodge ProMaster on
Sept 2015 and now it July 22 2016 I have 17745 miles and they were rotated correctly and they have about 20% left of thread. Really sad they are sticking to us again. I use this truck for bussiness around town and Highway. I need to start checking prices.
It’s like buying a printer with factory ink cartridges. They giveven only for the first 10 prints…..lol
I drive a 2009 AWD IS 250. I put Continentals on it in Jan. 2014 when the OD read 40,000. Now, I am at 70,000 miles and due for tires. I am very anal about getting my oil changed and tires rotated every 6 months. With that type of care, they have lasted me 30,000 miles.
@ Curtis Flora
Sounds like I will buy my own tires and negotiate the price down on my new car. I will tell them to keep their tires and put the ones I bought on. The dealership wants $800 to replace all 4 tires. My tires lasted 25,000 highway miles on my brand new,2014 Toyota Corolla that I bought 12/19/14.
@ Daniel
You are not alone. I drive extremely careful because I want my car to last a long time
@ susan
I agree. I assumed Jim Norton Toyota had switched out my tires when they rotated them and changed my oil until I started looking at all of the other complaints about tires.
I bought a brand new 2015 Toyota Corolla on December 19, 2014. Drove it off the showroom floor. At 25,000 miles (all highway miles), I was told that I needed to buy 4 brand new tires. I asked him after 17 months of having my brand new car I have to buy brand new tires??!!! I looked at my Firestone tires and took pictures this morning. I’m thinking about trading in my car. I’m super frustrated about having a car not even 2 years and having to buy brand new tires.
It’s not the car but rather the tires. I think they put softer tires on many Toyotas. I had a 2006 Solara and had to replace my tires at 25K miles.
With my 2013 Hyundai, I have nearly 49K on the original tires and they still ride great although they are due for replacement very soon.
You can always go with a different tire which will last longer although they might not be as quiet.
What guys? Are you eating them tires? The Hankook tires on my Renault Fluence are 5 years old and past the bar of 200.000 and are like new.
Maybe back then the Hankook Tires where made with quality but now I don’t believe that is the case. I’ve bought my Ford Explorer December 2016 with 20 inch Hankook Tires and 10 months later 28000 miles 98% Highway mileage @ the last oil change they recommended to change the tires soon. In my opinion the making of the tires deteriorate and manufacturer cutting the corners and make a bigger profit. That’s pretty sad how they cheat us car owner.
I was told by the shop guy that the tires they put on new were “soft” tires and wont last long. He said soft tires were to keep road noise down. I live in the hills and dont care about road noise. I will be writing a letter to the Ford Company
I just bought a new ford focus hatchback. It now have 24,000 miles on it. I rotated the tires almost every oil change and was told last oil change that i would be needing new tires after the oil change after next. I AM NOT happy about that. Im believing new tires should last more than say 20,000 to 30,000 miles this is BS
Yep, same here. I bought a 2015 Toyota Camry SE Hybrid last year and have about 24500 on it right now. Tires are about bald. Getting new ones put on Friday. Ridiculous…. I thought maybe it was the mountains I have to drive around in, but it’s not like I drive fast or fly around turns, because I’ve always thought the number was 50K miles or so is where I should be looking at new tires. Judging from all these comments, I’m not alone.
I purchased my New 2014 Honda Pilot, and needed new tires; and I know why! My uncle worked for Firestone for 30 years in upper management; He told me that Dealerships purchase a less superior product line for thier New vehicles. Meaning that they have a totally different Tire Product Line, for the Firestone franchise dealers. Also for the Mom and Pop Franchises their tires are of a more superior product. This is why my New Honda Pilot and your New vehicles need new tires after 20k miles. And this came from the mouth of one of the upper executive management from Firestone. Humm…sounds like we are being robbed!
Low mileage OEM tires make me nervious. Are they safe? How could they be?
@ Judi Dingfelder
Nitro fill is not worth your money. Nitrogen just has less water then air does. With straight air the water could freeze inside your tire but there is such minimal water that it doesn’t even matter. Imagine taking a few drops of water and putting it inside your tire. Nitrogen is just a way for the dealership to get more money out of you.
Thank you all for validating what I’ve been suspecting for some time now! My (was new) 2014 Dodge Challenger has less than 24,000 on it and the original tires are now almost bald. Now I drive fast (obviously) but otherwise normal:I’m over 40, so no peeling out, laying drags, donuts, etc. My previous car was a 1 year old Challenger and the dealer had to replace those tires before I took the car because they were almost bald too. I truly believe (and have heard for years) that the new car tires are not built to last as long as regular tire sales. As a lifelong driver of sport cars, I’m used to replacing tires more often than, say, family cars but this is getting ridiculous (and very costly!).
hi just lease a 2016 toyota camry se and put 2000 miles on it
and just few days ago ive noticed all my tires are all low in pressures!
and called the dealer and said that the tires are not included in the warranty!
now my questions is “how the hell this happened” with 2K miles on it! what’s the websites for the toyota recalls or forum sites?
this is a brand new toyota camry se
Maybe the dealer should have topped off your nitrogen level on each tire. This happened to me when I bought my toyota camry in 2012. As soon as the weather temperature chaneed my tire pressure indicator came on. Once they put more nitrogen in the tire the problem never returned.
I bought a new 2013 Nissan Murano – at 20,500 miles I had to replace all 4 tires. Tires were well maintained, rotated every 5,000 miles. Junk.. Just spent $900 on new Firestones, with a 60,000 mile warranty on the treads. I wish I would of known to ask about the tires at the time of purchasing the vehicle.
Bought from Firestone on February 8th 2014 a brand new set of Primewell Valera Touring Tires for my Kia Rio5 at 47,000 miles. Today, November 8th 2015 was told my tires are bald and I need new ones, I am at 74,000 miles. I only got 27,000 miles on these tires, when the ones from Kia I was able to put 47,000 on.
2013 Prius needs new tires at 30,000! Ridiculous.
@ Judi Dingfelder
Consumer reports found nitro not that much better than regular air. Will they do cheaper if NOT nitro? Otherwise it’s not a ‘bonus’..
We have just under 19,000 km – not even miles – on our factory-installed tires and they must be replaced already. It turns out there’s no warranty of any kind on the rubber. For famous name tire makers to produce what is essentially temporary tires, and for high profile car manufacturers to put them on their vehicles, it must cheapen both brands in the eyes of their customers. As far as the car is concerned, it makes me wonder what other corners have cut to keep costs low.
I drive a 2013 Toyota Highlander Hybrid (the top of the line for this car). I have 24,000 miles and I think I need new tires. My original tires have “nitro-fill” and I’m willing to buy new ones from the dealership (who will “throw in Nitro-fill”) – is Nitrofill worth it? How many miles should I realistically get from these tires – pressures are always ok (they are measured by the car) and they have been rotated regularly.
Leased a 2013 CR-V new, vehicle has 14,700 miles on it. Still have 8 months left on the lease and car was not driven for 7 weeks just after we got it. Had to have all 4 tires replaced as one was down to 2/32 tread. At least Continental paid for 50% (half a loaf better than none), but very unhappy that tires would need replaced at this mileage mark. Makes me wonder.
Just left Honda at Avenues Jax, FL for my 2013 Honda Fit which has 22k miles for my 3rd oil change and rotate tires. They told me they could not rotate my tires as the 2 front tires had to be replaced for a cost of 269.00 and I had a 3rd tire that would need to also be replaced VERY soon. I told them BS, not to rotate and I will buy my tires someplace else. He had also told me the new tires would have the same life span as the ones I already had on there. He COULD sell me other tires at a HIGHER cost. They can BITE ME !!!
I bought a 0 miles Elantra with Kumho tires. 22k miles later had to replace tires (metal showing up). This time I bought 4 Hankook optimo tires on ebay. These tires lasted 70k. Always took the car to the dealer for balancing and rotation every 5k miles because has free maintenance for life.
Same Happened to me My new Honda Accord front tires gone after 23000 miles although the rear one was in Good condition But I replace all with Michelin and now thinking I just change front two with rear one and Put new one on rear , but now too late and the Tyre replacement guy told me the same to rotate after 7000-8000 miles
We are totally getting worked here with inside secrets of the tire industry. These rims only allow “high performance” tires that wear out at 22,000 miles at $169 each tire. If that freaking salesman said something I would have requested the final tailoring of the car to switch to the 16″ small rim tires in order to meet the needs and wants of the freaking customer. On top of that I think Toyota switched to the bigger 17″ rims but did not realign the car needing less camber tilt as it wears out the edges ultra fast. It seems like I should get the car aligned and keep the 17″ but no it’s not that bad. I switching to the 16″ and still pay $100 for an alignment done right that should last as long as I never hit a bad bump.
I recently received an email from my dealership indicating that, on average, tires on AWD vehicles should be replaced around 30K miles. Their reasoning was primarily for safety and performance but they also threw in that costly additional repairs might be required if their not replaced at that time. I’m not sure what to do. My 2014 Honda CRV has a little more than 27K miles on it (I bought it new and have had it for 1 1/2 years). The tires have been rotated at each oil change and there appears to be reasonable tread left on them. I don’t think I’m going to change them at 30K but will continue to look for answers for this dilemma.
The Continental tyres on 2009 Mercedes ML350 only have a lifespan of 25,000kms. Like someone else mentioned they make them soft for a better and quieter ride. I just had to replace 2 while I was outside of the major metro areas and had to pay AUD$619 per tyre. I think they are about $470 in the big smoke.
I believe Pirelli makes a tyre for my model Merc but there is not much competition
I have a 2013 Nissan Rogue. After 29,000 miles, I need new tires. Never before bought a brand new carand had this problem.NEVER. Nissan even rotates and balances them, if theyre in fact doing it.
I bought a brand new 2013 Mazda5 two years ago. It now has 30,000 miles and the dealership says I need all four tires replaced! They want to charge me $280 per tire. I maintain my car and tires, so I don’t understand why this is happening. Of course, I didn’t buy the tires from the dealership, but this still seems crazy to me.
Yes after 27000 miles on a 3year old car I need to replace tires.
@ Jennifer
Jennifer, same here. Same year and model car. I have 30k miles after 3 years and the tires won’t pass inspection. I am amazed at how much new cars cost, only to put inferior tires on them. And of course our warranty doesn’t cover tires. :(
So – I was just told my VW Jetta with 40,000 miles needs new tires before next winter. I guess I should be grateful I made it that long. Just a note – worn out tires are a waste management issue. Used to be industrial boilers could burn them as supplemental fuel, until it was realized this was causing un-needed air pollution. So the USA has a glut of spent tires and no place to go with them. Somebody – invent something to use the old tires for! Make a million!
Why do tires have 50-75000 mile warranties but only last 20-25000 miles?
I bought 4 new, 65,000K rated tires from Firestone. The tires are Bridgestone brand. 18,000 miles later I’m being told 3 tires are almost bald and the 4th one is getting there. I had tires rotated twice and also had 1 wheel alignment done since getting these tires new. I went back to Firestone and they blamed wheel alignment as the culprit for the worn tires. I can see that up to a point but not entirely. I think the Bridgestone tires are inferior and the miles they rate them at are highly exagerated. I’m going to write to Firestone Corporate with a complaint and next set of tires is going to be Michelin’s even though they cost more.
I am having the same problem. I bought a 2013 Hyundai Sonata new (4 miles on the car when I purchased it) and am currently at about 24,000 miles. The past couple oil changes I’ve been told to watch my tires and that the tread is getting very low. This past oil change by the dealership, I was told that it’s time to buy new tires and that I don’t need to wait any longer. I looked at the tires and he was right; very little tread left. So I’m getting 4 new tires put on that have a 70,000 mile warranty.
Just had to have 4 new tires put on with 20,000 on a 2013 Juke.
They changed my rims, did not tell me and I didn’t notice until home as I had a sick parent to go and care for.
Did I get a bate and switch?
Going back in the am to confront.
Yes, you are right that after 20000 miles cars want new tires because I experienced it and the front ones were nearly bald. Then I talked my neighbor for tires and he recommended me http://www.roadwaywholesaletire.com for new tires in cheap rates. And great experience. Now I am happy…
My Toyota corolla 2011 has l7,451 miles with original tires, I purchased the car new, drive back and forth to work 4 miles a day and they have been rotated every 5,000 miles and the front tires are almost bald. The tires are bridgestone.
I have a 2010 Mazda Sport 5, I bought new. It has 25,000 miles and the tires are worn out. I maintain pressure, rotation and other pm.on the car. I can’t believe I need a whole set of tires. It really makes me angry. Im a retired person,on a fixed income and have to shell out a whole lot of money on tires. Just doesn’t seem fair at the prices of new cars that the tires don’t last longer than this.
The best part of this process is that the Hyundai tire warranty is what replaced only a single tire, and created the mechanical failure.. So it wasn’t even my own cheap nature (which is a real thing) creating the issue. I am now fighting with the dealership to cover the repair expense and cost of all 4 tires since their own warranty repair job created the entire problem.@ Dgallion
The age or tread wear of the other tires have nothing to do with it, and any one of those tires could have easily been rated for 50k miles or more and be in immaculate condition otherwise. The problem I just found out about in my 2013 Hyundai Santa Fe is that when you replace one tire (as I did at 14k miles due to road debris tearing the sidewall). The replacement tire is slightly larger (approx 1/4″) in diameter than the other 3. This results in one wheel of the AWD system rotating a little slower than the rest creating added torque against the drivetrain & it will slowly chew away at the coupler and the differential gears until something breaks. (As just happened on mine). So Spending 800-1000 on tires prevents 2-3k in mechanical repair, risk of accident and/or being stranded on the side of the road. Not fun, but the reality of the situation…
I have a 2007 Honda Ridgeline with 13,000 miles on it which I bought new. It was garaged until about a year ago. My question is whether or not I need to replace the tires on it, even though there is minimal wear; someone told me tires that old need replacing regardless of the wear.
The rubber compounds in a tire deteriorate with time, regardless of the condition of the tread. An old tire can pose a potential safety hazard so replacing the tires on your Ridgeline would be a good idea. I know Nissan recommends changing the tires every six years, even if they just sit and are rarely used on the road.
I have a 2014 Kia Forte that I bought 5/13 and am replacing tires as we speak. Have about 21,500 on the odo. Previously had a 2012 Kia Forte and replaced the factory tires at right around 20k also. My husband has a 2012 Kia Soul and he replaced his factory tires around 18k. (2 of them were still decent but just replaced all 4 due to winter months)
It is not the car makers or tire companies saving cost (or working together to benefit the tire makers) – rather, less tread depth improves fuel economy substantially. Obviously the automotive industry is being pressed for economy/CO2. Tread depth is just one factor. The overall effect of tires can be as significant as 4 mpg on vehicles. 20k is on the short end of life. Roads and driving style affect life substantially. Rotation is more important than ever before.
I bought a brand new 2013 RAV4. About 2 months ago one of my tires kept having an air tire leak and I didn’t know why. I thought it was a nail so I brought it into toyota to get it checked and they found the tire was a tire that was already patched up with a plug. I have never got my tires changed or fixed for any reason ever since I bought my brand new RAV4 and had all my oil changed and tires checked at toyota ever since I bought it. The dealership lied to me about selling me a brand new car right off the lot with everything on the car brand new. What do I do?
I bought a 2012 suzuki sx4. I have consistently rotated my tires about every 6,000 miles and now have 35,000 miles on those original tires. I have driven through rough roads in the denver mountains and my tires are still in great condition! I believe that regular maintenance of rotating tires and keeping the right amount of air in them at all times makes a huge difference.
Could be the tires are softer to meet performance goals on the cheap
I have a 2010 Toyota Rav 4 Limited. I always have the tires rotated and aligned. After 20,000 miles I had to replace all 4 tires. The tire store said it’s common today and believes that new cars come equipped with inferior tires even though they may have a brand name. May be a collusion between the Auto makers and tire makers to equip the new vehicle with inferior tires and make more money, and the tire companies to make more money by forcing you buy another set after 20,000 miles. Plausible as nothing surprises me these days with the greed I see in this country and the vanishing of the middle class.
I have a 2000 Subaru Outback and have just replaced the Potenza tires in a trade-in package on Ecopia variety. These Ecopia are 65000 miles rated so I’ll see how they go. One thing that I have found is that they ride really well and roll exceptionally easy. I find that I have to ease off the throttle because I’m going over the speed limit. On my last fill-up I got 2 mpg better than before. I don’t drive hard and got 24 mph around town.
I have a 2014 Jetta with 20,000 miles and have the same tire issue. NOT RIGHT! @ Christine
I have a 2012 leased VW Jetta and we just found out we need new tires at 20,000 miles…that is after one of them had a blow out. We have aligned and rotated them as per VW because they did all the service. I think this is shameful!!! Since tires are the only thing not really covered in the lease service agreement I am not surprised they want them to wear out before I return the car at 36,000 miles…but it sounds like car and tire company collusion to me!
@ Sharen
The Questions section of the main CarGurus site has input from lots of folks on good tires for a Hyundai Elantra – here’s a link:
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Discussion-t35968_ds499866
Hope that helps, and good luck!
I have a 2010 Hyundai Elantra with 13,000 miles on it and the dealer told me I needed two front tires and probably in a month or so I will need two on the back. He said that they come from the factory now with “soft tires”. I really do not do much driving. Any input??
I have a 2012 Kia Forte that I haven’t even had for a year it has about 19,500k on it and it needs 4 new tires!! I have kept them rotated as per scheduled also as they were done at each oil change.
New cars come with softer, higher performance tires that wear out faster than most of the tires consumers would normally buy for their car. Because tires are so expensive, most people tend to buy tires rated for 50,000 miles or so, which sacrifice a little bit of comfort and stickiness to the road. Car manufacturers don’t care how long your first tires last, so they opt for the softer, comfier tires.
2010 Focus with 10,200 miles on factory Kumho tires. Just had them replaced today because they were down to 3/32nds. I contacted Ford and got emails and phone calls aplenty, all replete with canned doublespeak and no offer of help. Scandalous, Ford !
MB ML350 35,000 miles, I have to replace the all 4 tires according to the mechanics at the dealer shop.
All the AWD car is now using softer tires so it makes driver to feel more comfortable and it stops really quick on the road.
Average life of the tires for the AWD SUV is now 25,000 miles according to the MB mechanic, my tires lasted longer than usual… then I said WHAT? it really bothers me that I have to spend 1,800 dollars for replacement of 4 tires and alignment svc every 2~3 years.
@ Bob
You can replace the tires with anything your heart desires, as long as you replace all four and they are the same size as the OEM Michelins.
I have 18,000 miles on my Lexus es350, and the front tires are getting bald. Is there any reason I need to replace the tires with the same ones I have on it? They are Michelin tires.
I just had to purchase four new tires for a 2007 toyota- I have under 30,000 miles! To make matters worse the car is now driving horrible-on my way to take it back and I am not happy!
@tgriffith
i dont know where you are getting tires but they saw you comming althought tires are expensive they don’t cost that damn much. i advise going to your nearesd firestone/bridgestone dealer the are damn good tires for the price you pay for them
I have a 2003 chevy caviler and had to replace the tires after only 22500 miles and i rotate the tires and maintain the tire pressure myself. My brother has a 2009 dodge ram and only has just over 18000 miles on his tires and had a blowout because of the tires needing to be replaced.
@Christina
Call around, Christina and see if you can find a better price. I don’t doubt that you actually need new tires, just compare prices before you buy from the dealer.
I have an 09 Mercedes C300 with 22K miles. Just sent it in for service and they called saying that my back tires need to be replaced. They said that if I do not, they cannot rotate them. It’s going to cost me $730 for two tires!
Well we have a 2009 Jetta already with a bit over 17K miles on it, tires look brand new, so i give it at least another 20K miles before they need replacement. On a related story we had a VW Touareg ate the first set of tires in less than 20K miles, however the Touareg is considered a high performance SUV equipped with high performance tires. The so called high performance cars/SUV’s eat tires and brakes for breakfast.
@Theresa
Theresa-
I think the best thing for you to do is get the alignment and then just buy new tires. I know it hurts the pocketbook, but buy good tires and have them rotated (usually free when you return to the location where you bought them)and you should get many more miles out of the new set.
@John Murphy
they are telling me that i need an alignment..and it was my responsibilty to get it done..regular maint…
I have a 2008 Chevy Aveo with 13000 miles on it. I have been complaining about the gas milage since it had 500 miles on it. the dealer kept telling me i had to put more miles on it for it to get better. i have told them that it won’t go right, it is not driving right, now the front tires are totally bald only on the outside. they never once told me to to get an alignment or to rotate the tires. they are not honoring the warrenty because it is over 7500 miles and they say now it is service and my fault. i have a complaint into chevy but they are not going to help because i did not rotate the tires…they are excesevly worn and i don’t know what to do…
I have a 2008 Chevy Aveo 5 w 22,000 miles on it and the tires are bald and I did rotate the tires as recommended!
I have a 2005 Volvo XC90 that I have noticed all of a sudden that my tires are nearly bald also. I have 31,000 miles on them. However, I do watch the pressure and rotate as I am supposed to. (Volvo made this easy to keep up with because of their free regular maintenance for the first 3 years). But, my tires are still bald, and I can’t find anywhere in the literature or on the web how many miles my tires were SUPPOSED to last. How do I claim anything under warranty for wear if nothing is in print?